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michigan governor rick snyder could sign bills into law any minute now. so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the the director of labor policy at mack kin gnaw center, who has been at the protests site all day. we have mark brenner, director of labor notes. vinnie, what do you make of what went on today? >> melissa, thanks for having me on. it is absolutely historic. you're talking about the state with the 52-week highest percentage of union members in the country. the birthplace of the uaw. for what has been long considered a union strong hold, giving workers the freedom to choose. freedom to choose whether or not to pay a union and still keep their jobs. this will have national ramification. this is very historic day both for michigan at country. melissa: mark, is there aniable positive way to spin this for the union side? >> of course not. this is union-busting move by lame duck legislature. this is puppet marching to the beat of puppet tease, dick devs of amway who want to hurt unions. melissa: did they succeed? is there a way to battle bac
michigan governor rick snyder could sign bills into law any minute now. so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the the director of labor policy at mack kin gnaw center, who has been at the protests site all day. we have mark brenner, director of labor notes. vinnie, what do you make of what went on today? >> melissa, thanks for having me on. it is absolutely historic. you're talking about the state with the 52-week highest percentage of union members in the country. the...
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governor rick snyder yesterday, the audacity -- right? of saying, oh this is pure kind of fox news bs. what? me? i just signed this anti-worker legislation. no, i am not anti-worker. i am pro-worker. >> so we are moving forward on the topic of workplace fairness and equality. again, i don't view this anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. >> bill: right. it's like charlie manson saying i am pro-life, you know. >> peter: right. >> bill: ridiculous. and then rick snyder says, by the way, it's not fair to call these people freeloaders. >> i think it's absolutely inappropriate to say someone is a freeloader. michigan people are hard-working people trying to make a living. if the union is offering them a value proposition, i don't see a michiganer hesitating to pay those dollars >> bill: i came close to calling that what it is. total b.s of course they are freeloaders. i have all of these people around me. they are paying their dues so we can get representation in the state legislature in the congress so we can work and get better re
governor rick snyder yesterday, the audacity -- right? of saying, oh this is pure kind of fox news bs. what? me? i just signed this anti-worker legislation. no, i am not anti-worker. i am pro-worker. >> so we are moving forward on the topic of workplace fairness and equality. again, i don't view this anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. >> bill: right. it's like charlie manson saying i am pro-life, you know. >> peter: right. >> bill: ridiculous. and then rick...
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snyder for his signature. protesters of this new law number some 10,000 at today's demonstrations. most league made up of uaw union of the workers, machinists, teachers, sometimes angry crowds that seem to be taking cues frm their democratic leaders. one group described by those on the ground as a mob chanting and gohome while tearing down a conservative activist group tent. a member of that mob scene right here. this as protesters are heard in the background treatening the police with violence. here he is trying to plead with pro union protesters to be less physical, lot less. >> already destroyed onetent. leavitt's and alone. >> get out of my face. >> don't teardown that tend. >> get out of my face. i didn't hurt nobody. get outta my ace. get at my face. lou: one state legislator before the bout had been taken declared there would be blood, repercussions, as you saw there. some protesters got more than just a little physical. democratic state reprentative said i right to work legislation were to be passed, t
snyder for his signature. protesters of this new law number some 10,000 at today's demonstrations. most league made up of uaw union of the workers, machinists, teachers, sometimes angry crowds that seem to be taking cues frm their democratic leaders. one group described by those on the ground as a mob chanting and gohome while tearing down a conservative activist group tent. a member of that mob scene right here. this as protesters are heard in the background treatening the police with...
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all that's left now is for republican governor rick snyder to sign it. it will curb the power of unions, it gives workers the chance to decide for themselves whether or not to pay union dues. they decide that as opposed to mandatory dues which is the way that the state has been run and so many other states have been run up to now. this is a story that has been playing out, it has seen some very plowed -- loud and violent protests, but peaceful demonstrations going on right now around the statehouse. again, final approval given by the republican-controlled house in the state government there in michigan. all that's left is the governor's signature, it could come later today or tomorrow. of we will certainly keep you posted. >>> americans facing great danger in hot spots all around the world. it's now three months since the murderous attack at our consulate in libya. is the u.s. any closer now to bringing the killers to justice and making sure that nothing like that ever happens again? >>> also, you may not be familiar with this country, but terrorists lin
all that's left now is for republican governor rick snyder to sign it. it will curb the power of unions, it gives workers the chance to decide for themselves whether or not to pay union dues. they decide that as opposed to mandatory dues which is the way that the state has been run and so many other states have been run up to now. this is a story that has been playing out, it has seen some very plowed -- loud and violent protests, but peaceful demonstrations going on right now around the...
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and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer granholm were still governor of michigan. >> absolutely. >> bill: right? >> absolutely. you know, it is such a step backward. it is such a step backward. it goes back 67 years. international relations act essentially said america's better off if workers have a voice. what made the middle class of michigan? >> bill: sure. union workers. >> where does the union movement go? this is a big blow. what should they learn from this going forward so this doesn't happen in other states because as i understand it, right-to-work laws are in about half the states. >> bill: now 24. michigan is 24. >> i think it means work harder. the labor movement has worked hard. what it means i think is having a stronger conversation in america about whether we want workers to have a voice in the workplace. and if they don't what are the consequences? you know, we've had a flattening of income
and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer granholm were still governor of michigan. >> absolutely. >> bill: right? >> absolutely. you know, it is such a step backward. it is such a step backward. it goes back 67 years. international relations act essentially said america's better off if workers have a voice. what made the middle class of michigan?...
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we're following some major developments in michigan after governor rick snyder signed two bills into law making michigan the nation's 24th right it work state. now despite violent pro-union protests all day, governor snyder last night said these new laws will create more jobs. >> i don't view this as anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. this is an opportunity for unions to step up to say how they can provide the best value to workers in our state and be really responsive and listen to them and hopefully get successful getting workers on board. jenna: many strong opinions about this. mike tobin in lansing, michigan with the latest. mike? >> reporter: a lot of sound, fury and big numbers are gone from the demonstrationsgan. if you look behind me the afl-cio with a silent protests. you see tape across their mouth. $1500 less that's what they believe on average workers will make here in michigan now that it has become a right-to-work state. this is sharp contrast what we saw yesterday, hundreds and hundreds of angry demonstrators on the capitol ground and capitol building its
we're following some major developments in michigan after governor rick snyder signed two bills into law making michigan the nation's 24th right it work state. now despite violent pro-union protests all day, governor snyder last night said these new laws will create more jobs. >> i don't view this as anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. this is an opportunity for unions to step up to say how they can provide the best value to workers in our state and be really responsive and...
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republican gernor rick snyder says he plans to sign the legislation calling it pro-worker. unions sharing a loss ofnion dues and other power attack governor snyderlaiming he's putting the future of the state in the hands of big business. well, president obama adding to the ever-expanding list of titles, the latest coming from the chairman of the white house triball nation's conference. listen. >> the president loves basketball. he has an indian name. he knows what it's like to be poor, and he has not forgotten where he came from, and his theme song is "hail to the chief." [laughter] i think he definitely qualifies as the first american indian president. lou: and so he is declared. you may remember the president has been called the first gay, female, jewish, and asian president; however, without question, the title of america's first black president belongs to bight. -- bill clinton. up nt, the obama ultimatum. tax the rich, or he'll take the country over the cliff. vote on the facebook page, do you agree president obama's ultimatum on higher taxes are responsible for drivin
republican gernor rick snyder says he plans to sign the legislation calling it pro-worker. unions sharing a loss ofnion dues and other power attack governor snyderlaiming he's putting the future of the state in the hands of big business. well, president obama adding to the ever-expanding list of titles, the latest coming from the chairman of the white house triball nation's conference. listen. >> the president loves basketball. he has an indian name. he knows what it's like to be poor,...
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. >> reporter: but republican governor rick snyder insists the legislation will help workers by not forcing them to join unions or pay dues. >> if they don't see value in the union in terms of its activities, should they be forced to pay financial resources for that? i don't believe so. give them choice. >> reporter: the governor and republican lawmakers argue the legislation will attract businesses and keep jobs in michigan. union members argue it will result in lower wages. clear evidence for either argument is inconclusive. workers in right-to-work states do earn $300 more than their counterparts in non-right to work states according to data collected by a group arguing for right to work. but five of the 11 sates with the highest unemployment have right-to-work laws, including nevada, which has the highest unemployment rate in the nation. united auto workers member reggie smith has been a union member for more than 35 years. he warns michigan voters have long memories. >> you've spoken to the people and they're speaking back to you today and they'll take care of you when it comes time fo
. >> reporter: but republican governor rick snyder insists the legislation will help workers by not forcing them to join unions or pay dues. >> if they don't see value in the union in terms of its activities, should they be forced to pay financial resources for that? i don't believe so. give them choice. >> reporter: the governor and republican lawmakers argue the legislation will attract businesses and keep jobs in michigan. union members argue it will result in lower wages....
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once that happens, it's expected to go to governor rick snyder's desk. he is expected to sign it, despite the fact that he did have an hour of intense meetings with democratic congressional delegation from here yesterday where they were asking him to veto this decision or at least delay the decision. he said he would consider their concerns but the likelihood is, if that bill reaches his desk, he will put his signature on it, zoraida. >> we're looking at video right now. we see a little bit of police presence there. they're expecting 10,000 unionized workers to show up today. do they have some security measures in place? >> oh, yeah, they definitely do. you're seeing road closures around the capital. there are parking restrictions in place. you know, if last week is any indication when thousands of people descended on the capital, today aets expected to be even more intense because we're getting closer and closer to that final approval, yes. we've seen even yesterday when i was out here, police were getting ready for what the onslaught of demonstrators a
once that happens, it's expected to go to governor rick snyder's desk. he is expected to sign it, despite the fact that he did have an hour of intense meetings with democratic congressional delegation from here yesterday where they were asking him to veto this decision or at least delay the decision. he said he would consider their concerns but the likelihood is, if that bill reaches his desk, he will put his signature on it, zoraida. >> we're looking at video right now. we see a little...
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this happened when michigan's republican governor rick snyder steined two bills yesterday that essentially allow workers to have the freedom to join a union or not. it restricts unions from requiring people it to pay dues and join them in a company. one deals with private sector workers. the other deals with public employees. the angry opponents took to the streets in the days leading up to the votes. the governor calls the measures pro-worker and pro-michigan. a democratic lawmaker said passing these bills is, quote, an act of war on michigan's middle class. >>> this might be a sign of times. the pope has entered twitter. i love this picture. i just love it. pope benedict xvi posting his first mess an at the vatican. thank you for your generous response. i bless all of you from my heart. within an hour the pontiff had achieved 700,000 english-speaking followers on his account. his handle if you want to get with the program is @pontfx. >>> get ready for another member of the bush
this happened when michigan's republican governor rick snyder steined two bills yesterday that essentially allow workers to have the freedom to join a union or not. it restricts unions from requiring people it to pay dues and join them in a company. one deals with private sector workers. the other deals with public employees. the angry opponents took to the streets in the days leading up to the votes. the governor calls the measures pro-worker and pro-michigan. a democratic lawmaker said...
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snyder says it will make them more competitive. the home, if you will, the unofficial home, of the labor movement, is now a right-to-work state. that's going to make for an interesting 2014 state campaign there. >>> the final race of 20912 election set for tomorrow thanks to the crazy ways louisiana does things. they have a run-off for a congressional race. it's a battle pitting the newly redrawn third district. it's republican versus republican there. >>> well, good news on the jobs front. helping to boost the markets at the opening bell. we've been telling you the november jobs report showed 146,000 jobs added for the month. top estimates all over the place by more than 50% tempering the optimism a bit, though, downward revisions both in september and october showing employers added 49,000 fewer jobs than originally estimated. well, we'll have the gaggle here early. get their take on the jim demint surprise, the bizarre -- well, it's less than bizarre but it was sort of like a ptsd from the romney campaign. much more. [ man ] rin
snyder says it will make them more competitive. the home, if you will, the unofficial home, of the labor movement, is now a right-to-work state. that's going to make for an interesting 2014 state campaign there. >>> the final race of 20912 election set for tomorrow thanks to the crazy ways louisiana does things. they have a run-off for a congressional race. it's a battle pitting the newly redrawn third district. it's republican versus republican there. >>> well, good news on...
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governor rick snyder believes there will be more job. he believes the protests hurt more than they help. here he is. >> if you go forward you will create a environment involving labor issues this could rise to the lebl level where i might not keep it off my agenda. i'm not happy about being in this situation. >> he has the responsibility as our leader avoiding this kind of a cliff. it is not, it is not good enough to be for him to say liks behind us. this will do the opposite. martha: there is the scene there. that is a live shot this morning. we were told there would be perhaps thousands of people gathering on the scene. certainly seems to becoming out to be that kind of a turnout. take a look at that this morning, 9:01 eastern time in lansing, michigan. the governor is set to sign this into law later today. it will become the 24th right to work state in the nation. this is growing trend across the united states. you look at states like michigan and wisconsin, both very big union states where this is a real, perhaps, turning point in th
governor rick snyder believes there will be more job. he believes the protests hurt more than they help. here he is. >> if you go forward you will create a environment involving labor issues this could rise to the lebl level where i might not keep it off my agenda. i'm not happy about being in this situation. >> he has the responsibility as our leader avoiding this kind of a cliff. it is not, it is not good enough to be for him to say liks behind us. this will do the opposite....
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here is what michigan governor rick snyder had to say. >> it's all about being pro-worker. we have hard-working people in michigan it's been to give them the freedom to choose. they should be be able to choose whether to join a union or not. this is about the relationship between a union and workers. not about employers and unions. not about collective bargaining. this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't people have the opportunity to say they want to belong or not? >> michigan could soon be a right-to-work state. will others follow? joining us now is uaw member and spokesman for the michigan freedom-to-work coalition brian penebaker. you are a line worker right now, correct? >> that's right i'm assembly worker at the sterling axle plant in sterling heights. >> tell us what your reaction is to governor snyder's willingness, desire and push to make michigan a right-to-work state? >> well, what he said is exactly true. up until now, workers in michigan, if you hire in at a shop that has union representation, you were forced to become a member of the union. but
here is what michigan governor rick snyder had to say. >> it's all about being pro-worker. we have hard-working people in michigan it's been to give them the freedom to choose. they should be be able to choose whether to join a union or not. this is about the relationship between a union and workers. not about employers and unions. not about collective bargaining. this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't people have the opportunity to say they want to belong or not?...
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he was greeted by rick snyder at the airport in detroit. michigan would be the 24th right to work state in the nation and with its union background, it would be a huge blow to organized labor, which continues to lose its share of the work force. it was a little under 12% of the work force last year. it was 20% 30 years ago. snyder says his goal isn't hurting unions, it's helping michigan. >> i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. you have hard working people in michigan. this is giving workers choice. >> republicans lost five seats in the michigan legislature last month and democrats accused them of fast tracking the right to work bill through the house and senate in a single day last week to get it done before the new legislature takes office next month. the democratic members of congress tried to pressure legislators not to approve the bill. they were scolded by the state house speaker for pressuring lansing instead of dealing with the fiscal cliff. >> gretchen: wendell goler, thanks very much. >> steve: let's switch down t
he was greeted by rick snyder at the airport in detroit. michigan would be the 24th right to work state in the nation and with its union background, it would be a huge blow to organized labor, which continues to lose its share of the work force. it was a little under 12% of the work force last year. it was 20% 30 years ago. snyder says his goal isn't hurting unions, it's helping michigan. >> i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. you have hard working people in michigan....
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despite the protests of thousands of people, michigan's governor rick snyder signed into law a right-to-work statute. >> critics say it weakens unions by taking away the requirement of union dues. that's pretty significant, because the state of michigan is one of the birthplaces of modern labor rights. >> reporter: michigan's republican controlled state legislature approved two controversial right-to-work bills, all the while pro union protesters crowded the capital. >> wages will go down. benefits will go down. it's going to hurt small business, local business. it's just going to hurt michigan. >> reporter: at issue is right to work. it allowed people to opt out of joining the union at the workplace. the governor has flip-flopped, saying it was labor and democrats who hit first, trying to pass prop 2 in november. voters turned it down. >> made the point to him to say if you go forward with this, you're going to create an environment involving labor issues that this could rise to the level where i might not be able to keep it off the agenda and that's what happened. >> reporter: democrats an
despite the protests of thousands of people, michigan's governor rick snyder signed into law a right-to-work statute. >> critics say it weakens unions by taking away the requirement of union dues. that's pretty significant, because the state of michigan is one of the birthplaces of modern labor rights. >> reporter: michigan's republican controlled state legislature approved two controversial right-to-work bills, all the while pro union protesters crowded the capital. >> wages...
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snyder says he will sign it. they have to tinker with it tomorrow to do some little --fine tune can, but we just heard from steve cook with the michigan education association that as of tomorrow, michigan will be a right to work state. this is a big slap in the face for organized labor. >> well, we know that organized labor isn't the problem. look at the evidence shown in michigan, ohio and all of these areas that were affected by previously the downsizing in the automobile industry, uaw and management got together. now, you have profit sharing, people back to work, more shifts, more marketability of these new efficient hybrid vehicles. what's wrong with that >> bill: very much a part of that equation. >> they gave up a lot. it's not like they are unwilling to do that. who are you going to short-circuit here? you are going to short-circuit the american public and the work evers overall? unions have been shrinking. you can't just keep blaming one group of individuals. it's misguided unfortunately. >> it's pretty c
snyder says he will sign it. they have to tinker with it tomorrow to do some little --fine tune can, but we just heard from steve cook with the michigan education association that as of tomorrow, michigan will be a right to work state. this is a big slap in the face for organized labor. >> well, we know that organized labor isn't the problem. look at the evidence shown in michigan, ohio and all of these areas that were affected by previously the downsizing in the automobile industry, uaw...
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snyder would veto that right to work. i'm interested in your thoughts about the movement that we seem to be seeing about more and more right to work states. to me, michigan is emblematic of all of them because it's the home of the auto industry where the unions have been so powerful and it's interesting to me in the sense that the state went for obama, but that the voters actually wanted what happened here. >> yeah, that's right. and remember, just as context that there was a measure on the ballot that the big labor bosses were pushing that would have enshrined collective bargaining rights into the state constitution. and it was rejected 57% to 42%. i think that there is certainly -- there is divided government and divided opinion in this country and there is a divided of power to conservatives where beltway republicans fail to do their job, at the national level, more and more we're seeing that grassroots, free market principles are winning at the state and local level. that is cause for hope for sure. >> brian: michelle
snyder would veto that right to work. i'm interested in your thoughts about the movement that we seem to be seeing about more and more right to work states. to me, michigan is emblematic of all of them because it's the home of the auto industry where the unions have been so powerful and it's interesting to me in the sense that the state went for obama, but that the voters actually wanted what happened here. >> yeah, that's right. and remember, just as context that there was a measure on...
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snyder's desk at some point expected today. ted in. >> alison kosik on the ground in michigan, we'll have much more as this unfolds over the next two hours. at the bottom of the hour we'll talk with two michigan state democrats, democrat gretchen whitmer and republican tanya schudemaker. >>> in egypt a new eruption of violence, gunmen opened fire on anti-government protesters, camped out in tahrir square. also amassing supporters of president mohamed morsi and a controversial vote this weekend on a new constitution. today as you might imagine, tensions are very high as the political crisis threatens to ignite new conflicts. reza, what is happening now? >> reporter: ted, i don't think too many people want a repeat performance what have we saw last week, at the presidential palace where the two sides of the conflict met here and came to blows, nearly 700 people injured in clashes, several people killed. today the stage is set for another potentially violent and explosive day, because both these sides again have called for mass de
snyder's desk at some point expected today. ted in. >> alison kosik on the ground in michigan, we'll have much more as this unfolds over the next two hours. at the bottom of the hour we'll talk with two michigan state democrats, democrat gretchen whitmer and republican tanya schudemaker. >>> in egypt a new eruption of violence, gunmen opened fire on anti-government protesters, camped out in tahrir square. also amassing supporters of president mohamed morsi and a controversial...
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governor rick snyder has previously said that right-to-work is not on his agenda but he does plan on sign that next week. back on capitol hill steven spielberg is slated to attend "lincoln." poems president obama is hosting the event at the capitol visitor senator. after the screening, spielberg and louis along with 3 other actors will hold a q and a session with senators and their guests. more "bill press" is coming up after our break. see you then. i want the people who watch our show, to be able to come away armed with the facts, and the arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action themselves. as a human being that's really important. this is not just a spectator sport. before the sneeze, help protect with a spray. before the tissue, help defend with a wipe. before the cold & flu season help prevent with lysol. because when you have 10 times more protection wit
governor rick snyder has previously said that right-to-work is not on his agenda but he does plan on sign that next week. back on capitol hill steven spielberg is slated to attend "lincoln." poems president obama is hosting the event at the capitol visitor senator. after the screening, spielberg and louis along with 3 other actors will hold a q and a session with senators and their guests. more "bill press" is coming up after our break. see you then. i want the people who...